Lemonbread wrote:And another thing that I find very shocking I guess because I was on Jury Duty not too longer ago,the word Alleged. Now correct me if I am wrong, is Mr. Murray not in court because he killed Michael Jackson, so the wording of Alleged so not be in the books. There is a scipture in the bible that I remember faintly about judgement. I thinnk I will try and find and give more details. It seems that by stating Alleged, that this can be stricken from the courts. So many things to ponder.
yes, lemonbread, the use of "alleged" has me baffled as well. nonbelievers can make excuses for that all they want, but to me it's very significant. some have suggested that they might just have filled up the charge sheet, where the 'alleged' was written on, but i don't think so? i think the verdict document is much different from the charge sheet. you don't just fill in the blanks. and anyway, they were able to correct a typo in the date. June 9 was changed to 25. so they could have deleted the word 'alleged' too, if they wanted to be really clear about it.
here is doggie's piece on that: Who Did Murray Kill?
On November 7, 2011 Dr. Conrad Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Judge Pastor also remanded Murray in jail until sentencing on November 29, 2011. Does that mean the Michael Jackson death hoax is over?
Not necessarily. Certain things happened as Conrad Murray was found guilty that just didn't make sense.
Judge Pastor passes the verdict to Mrs Sammi Benson who reads it out:
"Superior Court of California; Los Angeles County. The people of the State of California, plaintiff versus Conrad Robert Murray, defendant. Case number FA073164. Title of court and cause. We the jury in the above title and action find the defendant, Conrad Robert Murray, guilty of the crime of involuntary manslaughter in violation of penal code section 192 sub-section B. Alleged victim Michael Joseph Jackson. Alleged date of June 25th 2009. As charged in count one of the information; this seventh day of November 2011. Foreperson juror ID number 145; seat number 3. Is this your verdict; is this your individual and personal verdict so say you one so say you all?"
Hold on there Mrs Benson. You said he was guilty yet the victim and day remain alleged? How is it alleged if he has been found guilty?
The dictionary defines 'alleged' as: "Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed."
So Conrad Murray is guilty of involuntary manslaughter yet the victim and date have not been proved? Does that even make sense? How can a person be found guilty without a victim, or a date, being proved? In theory; they can't.
Also the alleged victim was Michael Joseph Jackson; yet his driving license which according to the L.A. Coroner's office was used for identification purposes states his name as Michael Joe Jackson.
And if you want to get really technical the court documents from the 2005 case against Michael Jackson, where he was acquitted of all charges, all used "The People of the State of California v. Michael Joe Jackson" (Case 1133603 if you want to check).
So who the hell died? Because legally Michael Joseph Jackson is not Michael Joe Jackson; as any aliases used in court specifically have to be defined as such. So Mrs Benson would of had to say "Michael Joseph Jackson also known as Michael Joe Jackson."
And I know some are going to be saying: "Well let's not get picky here Joseph or Joe it is all the same." But in a court of law it is not the same; it is not even close. In a court of law one is a legal name and one is an undefined alias; and as an undefined alias is worthless.
So Murray may have been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter - but by legal definition it was not of Michael Joe Jackson.